2004 honda civic lug nut torque

I came across some information regarding torque specs for alloy wheels saying that most should only be torqued to 65-70 ft/lbs. The alignment shop around here told me to torque them to 90 ft/lbs and they have been this way for the past 2 months. A few people said that they had broken studs when using alloy wheels at this torque spec, so I just went out to the garage and loosened my lugs, 90 ft/lbs was a lot tighter than I thought. So I got my torque wrench out after loosening my lugs and retorqued them to 65 ft/lbs. Did I do the right thing? What do you guys torque your lugs to on your aftermarket wheels?

Alloy I would go with 75-85. Steel mag wheels I would use 90-100

I only hand tighten them, never with air tools. If you use air tools, you'll never get em off if you have a flat.

yeah, I just use my hand torque wrench, but I know if you get them too tight anyway it can cause damage especially on aftermarket aluminum wheels, I don't want to damage a set of wheels when a new set of wheels are far from cheap

I torque my aftermarket lugnuts to 80 ft/lbs...

I would just go with what Honda recommends.

You did right thing.
I wouldn't torque any more than 75lbs on aftermarket wheels.
Honda's recommandation on 7thgen coupe/sedan is 76lbs.
80lbs for 7thgen Hatch.

I have stock steelies, and i torque mine to 80 ft/lbs.

I never use air tools, and when i take it to the tire shop, i request that they dont. We have locking lugs on our land cruiser, and they were using the key on air tools, and they actually broke the key... So since then i always just use my torque wrench...

^well they are morons for using air on locking lugs. we just use a breaker bar to get some leverage on the locks, but never the impact gun

Hey:

Does anyone know the true lug nut torque values for the Si coupe? The best I can find on the internet is a global value for all '84-'04 Hondas of 80 ft/lbs. Thanks...Regards...

80-100 and you'll be good to go.

Yes its 80ft/lbs. Not 80-100. I've heard that even 10 pounds over the original specs can snap the stud on your rotors.

fa1 said:

Yes its 80ft/lbs. Not 80-100. I've heard that even 10 pounds over the original specs can snap the stud on your rotors.

False...

It's the fact that most wheel and tire shops slam your wheels on with an Impact gun at much more than 80-100 lb ft. THAT can snap studs and it happens all the time.

I just meant that as little as 10ft/lbs over can snap the wheel studs even without an impact gun. This most occurs when the car has been exposed to the elements for a long time and the vehicle is fairly old.

all honda's are 80 ft/lbs...i worked at belle tire for 3+ years and BT has a torque chart for all makes of cars...and a little over 80 wont hurt anything...but its not good.

I went through FOUR lug studs in one year on my 2001 Civic EX from morons at shops stipping out the bolts (as well as had one idiot not reconnect one of the front brake calipers . . . yep, just flapping in the breeze).

I now carry a big Craftsman torque wrench around in the tire well of my Si and whenever possible do my own tire and wheel work.

And yes, it's 80 ft-lbs . .. it's in the manual.

The service manual shows 79.6 lbf-ft (80) and makes no distinction between the steel wheels of the LX and the alloys of the Si that I can find. The owners book just says 80 for putting on the spare. Another strange thing to me in the Service Manual is on maintaince page 3-2. It says nothing about 5W30 oil for the Si. Anyone see where it says 5W30 for the Si in the Service Manual?

Cicero said:

The service manual shows 79.6 lbf-ft (80) and makes no distinction between the steel wheels of the LX and the alloys of the Si that I can find. The owners book just says 80 for putting on the spare. Another strange thing to me in the Service Manual is on maintaince page 3-2. It says nothing about 5W30 oil for the Si. Anyone see where it says 5W30 for the Si in the Service Manual?

what service manual? Are we talking about the owners manual? I got an owners manual, navigation manual, warranty manual and dealer service coupons...did they fail to give me a serice manual?

pennRON said:

The one that shows you how to repair your car that you buy from Helm.

If they are bolted on too hard, the rotors can and will likely warp when driven hard. Warped rotors = bad, bad, bad.

Cicero said:

Another strange thing to me in the Service Manual is on maintaince page 3-2. It says nothing about 5W30 oil for the Si. Anyone see where it says 5W30 for the Si in the Service Manual?

Maybe it is in the Si supplement Manual

pennRON said:

what service manual? Are we talking about the owners manual? I got an owners manual, navigation manual, warranty manual and dealer service coupons...did they fail to give me a serice manual??

http://www.helminc.com/helm/product...ype=N&mscsid=HK6B30K3THRB9KA6UE7Q4MDBX00K0XX3

NiD4SPD

bung_goo said:

If they are bolted on too hard, the rotors can and will likely warp when driven hard. Warped rotors = bad, bad, bad.

What does lugnut torque have to do with warped rotors???

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

NiD4SPD said:

Maybe it is in the Si supplement Manual

I hope not!
That's why I got this edition of the service manual. I have the 2006-2007, Vol. I and II and from what I see it seems to contain LX, EX AND Si specific sections. Tell me if I'm wrong, someone. There is no 2007 Si supplimental, right?

Cicero said:

I hope not!
That's why I got this edition of the service manual. I have the 2006-2007, Vol. I and II and from what I see it seems to contain LX, EX AND Si specific sections. Tell me if I'm wrong, someone. There is no 2007 Si supplimental, right?

You're right, there is no 2007 Si supplemental (yet). I don't actually have the service manual yet, so I don't know how much of the Si is in it. But there is a 2006 Si supplement, maybe they integrated that info into the two-volume 2006/07 service manual? Or maybe not, and will be releasing a 2006/07 Si supplement? I don't know...

whats the big deal... just tighten it up jeez